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Join us on our 8th Human HR & Leadership Hackathon

We are excited to announce that on January 26th 2022 at 1pm GMT we will be hosting our 8th Human #HR & Leadership Hackathon. We are now looking for topics to discuss during the session, so please feel free to get in touch if you have a topic in mind. You can find the registration link here. Looking forward to seeing you there! Where? Zoom When? Wednesday, January 26th 2022 at 1pm GMT #hackathon #leadership #human

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Could you be our next Human CEO?

Since launching during lockdown 1.0, we’ve had great conversations with some outstanding Human CEOs. If you head over to Apple or Spotify, you can listen to all our previous episodes there. We are now looking for more guests for The Human CEO in 2022. We’d love to hear from Human CEOs who can share their knowledge with their peers and those hoping to follow in their footsteps. You can nominate yourself or a leader that inspires you. Please feel free to email us who you’d like for us to interview in 2022 at hello@recruithuman.co.uk

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HR Leaders Reading List 2021

“The worth of a book is to be measured by what you can carry away from it.” – James Bryce In addition to physical and mental wellbeing great workplaces need to start making room for intellectual wellness. With 2022 fast approaching we thought it would be great to ask all our HR Leaders for their book and podcast recommendations to get you started on your journey for intellectual wellness. 

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Xmas Reading list: Human CEO’s share their favourites

What will you be reading over the Christmas break?   With the end of what has been another unusual year fast approaching, we hope you have some downtime scheduled. We thought it might be interesting to ask all of our Human CEOs for their book recommendations to get you started on your Christmas reading.     “You can find magic wherever you look. Sit back and relax, all you need is a book” – Dr Seuss.   We hope you find it valuable.  

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Could you be our next HR Leader?…

For the month of December we are going to take a break from posting regular HR Leadership articles. However, if you head over to our blog page you can find all of our previous articles there. Since launching a few years ago, we’ve had great conversations with some outstanding HR Leaders like Martin Glover, Cindy Peters, Anthony Green, Donald MacRae, Heather Waterhouse and the list can go on. We are now looking for more contributors to our articles for 2022. We’d love to hear from HR Leaders who can share their knowledge with their peers and those hoping to follow in their footsteps. You can nominate yourself or a HR Leader that inspires you, by sending us an email at hello@recruithuman.co.uk

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“…try and get experience in as many different aspects of HR as possible” – Interview with Kristine Pollock

“Wherever you are in your career you need to understand the language of your business. You need to understand finance, profit and loss and communications.” – Kristine Pollock, Group People Director at Eurovia UK Ltd, speaks to us about developing a career in HR Leadership. As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, we’ve invited some HR Leaders to share the secrets of their success. This week, we had a great conversation with Kristine Pollock at Eurovia UK Ltd, who began her HR career as a HR Officer at Mark One (Oxford St) Plc, before transitioning to the role of Assistant Office Manager with Vizards. After two years, she became HR Manager at The Hanover Park Group. In 2000, Kristine joined Eurovia UK Ltd where she has continued to build her HR leadership career for the last two decades. From 2000 to 2009 she held the role of Group Head of Human Resources, before being promoted to her current position of Group HR Director in June 2009. In August 2019 Kristine became Group People Director. Can you tell us how you got into HR and why? I’d love to say I had a grand plan to get into HR, but that’s not quite what happened. I studied Law and French at University with a view of doing international law. During my course, I was particularly intrigued by the employment law side of things. After graduating I began a role in finance, which was enjoyable enough but it wasn’t long before I saw a vacancy in HR and moved across. I thought dealing with people would have an unpredictable element that appealed to me. After a few years I decided to obtain my professional qualifications and began with CIPD before a master’s in strategic human resources. There’s always something you can learn and even now, at this stage in my career, I’m halfway through my second master’s in People and Organisational Development. The opportunity to make a difference is what keeps me engaged in HR. Sometimes that’s in a human and personal way, other times it’s about strategic, companywide decisions. Nowadays in HR, you need to talk the language of the business and understand the figures, plus have a forward-looking view where you can see the impact of what you’re doing. I enjoy feeling that I’m part of an organisation that’s moving forwards and my role is to ensure that the people aspects are taken into account. HR has very important soft elements to it, but it’s no longer a traditional, fluffy, tea and sympathy role. It’s about how you achieve the best in your business through the people that work there. Of course, to achieve the best you need a People focused approach, ensuring your employees are fulfilled and feel they belong. I’ve been with Eurovia for 21 years. When I joined the business, they had 1,700 people and no one in HR. Everything has been built from that point onwards, but what we build changes all the time. Our organisation provides highways services, and a lot of people assume that because someone may work on the side of the road for a living that they’re low skilled or can’t do anything else. Actually, the opposite is true. Our employees are highly skilled and we are an organisation that is always looking to use innovation to improve and move forwards. As a business we change all the time. I am not People Director of the same business I joined twenty one years ago. It has changed, evolved, and grown and our HR priorities have as well. In addition to innovation, our business is so attractive to me because you’re not just allowed to use your initiative, you’re expected to. I feel a genuine ownership and connection to what I’m doing in a business with a good heart, we try to do the right thing. Can you tell me about the key themes and challenges that you’re seeing across the HR sector? Remote working is a challenge in some parts of our business. Two thirds of our employees work on the highways network and you physically cannot do that work from anywhere else. They are key workers and we have to take that into account. We don’t want to have a one-size-fits all approach. We’re trying to balance the needs of those who want to work remotely with the need for face to face connection so we’re beginning slowly. In a mixed workforce with different professions, you have to find an approach that gives something to everybody. I like to think that one day we might get to a place where our roadside workers can have some form of flexible working, but because of the high mobility and complex logistics – such as required response times on the network – it’s difficult. Like any employer, we have to look to the future and consider where we can bring in flexibility in a way that benefits both the employee and the business. A challenge I see for HR in general is systems, data and metrics and the meaning we apply to those. At Eurovia we’re in the process of moving to a new HR system. Part of that is asking, what data do we store? How do we use it? What data do we measure? What does it tell us and is it meaningful? Does it enable us to manage our business better? Data and metrics in the HR arena are increasingly important but there’s no point in reporting on things for the sake of it. We need to ask, what does it tell us? And how can it help us drive the business forward? I talk about What, So What, and Now What with my team – what do we measure, so what does it mean, and now what do we do with that? What career advice would you offer to someone either working towards a career like yours, or someone just getting started in their

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“When you become a leader in HR you have to remember doubly that it’s all about people…” – Interview with Paul Buckland-White

“When you become a leader in HR you have to remember doubly that it’s all about people: the people who are your customers and the people you are leading. It’s your responsibility to make sure that the people who are working for you are being treated as fairly and well as the people who need to have dealings with HR.” – Paul Buckland-White, Director of Learning Solutions at Smith & Nephew, speaks to us about developing a career in HR Leadership.   As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, we’ve invited some HR Leaders to share the secrets of their success. This week, we had a great conversation with Paul Buckland-White at Smith & Nephew, who began his career as a trainer before transitioning to L&D. Paul worked as a Systems Trainer at Buck and Hickman and BSS Group before becoming the Learning and Development Manager at Residential Lettings for Countrywide in 2009.  In 2015, he was promoted to Head of Learning and Development. He remained in that role for two years before becoming Head of Learning and Development, B2B and Learning Technology. In 2019, Paul added Interim Head of Recruitment to his responsibilities and from June 2020 to April 2021 he held the role of Head of Learning Support and Digital Learning. Paul left Countrywide and transitioned to his current role as Director of Learning Solutions at Smith & Nephew in May 2021.  Can you tell us how you got into HR and why? Like a lot of people in L&D, I fell into the work by accident. I was working in a call center and used to be involved in coaching new starters. From there I moved into a training role which was an epiphany for me in terms of career opportunities. At the time, in my late twenties, it really appealed to me both because my inner entertainer had the chance to perform and because of the serious undertones of making sure people could do their jobs well. That was my starting point and from then onwards I always wanted to be in roles that supported and helped people.  As I moved around different businesses I transitioned from operational to strategic training, which was when the HR aspects kicked in. That’s when I came to understand that training wasn’t just a transactional relationship, it was much more strategic, as part of workforce planning, talent, succession and other categories of success within a business. That was my career defining moment, when I understood the value that HR provides to a business. I knew I wanted to be part of the journey that the business and the people within the business go on.  Since then I’ve worked my way through different roles, always trying to improve and develop myself and my career. In my previous L&D role at Countrywide Plc I had the opportunity to do my CIPD Level 5 using the company’s apprenticeship levy funding. That was such an eye opening experience and fundamentally changed my approach. I learnt more about the different disciplines in HR and understood deeply the part that L&D plays across the people’s life cycle. L&D is more than talent and succession, it’s about empowering people and giving them incentives to stay within the business. Shortly after my CIPD, I was fortunate to be able to take on the Head of Recruitment role as a secondment in addition to my existing role. That gave me hands-on experience of recruitment which further built my appreciation for what happens across the whole of the human resources function.  Can you tell me about the key themes and challenges that you’re seeing across the HR sector? There’s an age-old challenge in L&D where people view it as traditional training that requires someone to be taken away from their day job to attend. Particularly if you’re working in a sales based industry where people are trying to generate revenue, there can be a reluctance to allow people to take time to learn. That view is missing the point. Training is an investment in people that enables them to be able to perform better. Additionally, smaller interventions, rather than multi-day training, are becoming more common and they often have a longer term impact on the bottom line.  A general HR challenge I see is the siloed nature of HR. While it’s more broken down than it used to be, there can still be a tendency to hand people off to different parts of the HR team. From an employee perspective, perhaps your recruitment partner doesn’t want to interact with you once you’ve joined and you’re now meant to talk to your business partner. That lack of continuity is a challenge. At the end of the day, we have to remember that people are at an organisation to do a job, but they’re also there because it’s a significant part of their life. The more we silo in HR, the more difficult it is to improve the experience for our people. What career advice would you offer to someone either working towards a career like yours, or someone just getting started in their HR career? Firstly, go and work in other parts of HR – I can’t stress that enough. Professional qualifications are great, but you can’t beat the experience you get first hand from being part of a disciplinary hearing or a recruitment process. The different aspects will broaden your understanding and give you a contextual approach that will then allow you to choose to specialise in a preferred discipline, if indeed you have one. If you are career focussed, don’t think that a sideways move is a bad thing. If you want to go into management, give yourself flexibility to see how people operate in other teams and other roles. They may all be people focussed but there are many different approaches. When you step up into a leadership role for the first time, my advice is to seek out development, mentors and

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“…be open, be flexible and always try to do a good job.” – Interview with Montserrat Bravo

“I think career progression comes from the right skills, the right attitude and being at the right place at the right time.” – Montserrat Bravo, HR Director, EMEA & APAC at Similarweb, speaks to us about developing a career in HR Leadership.   As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, we’ve invited some HR Leaders to share the secrets of their success. This week, we had a great conversation with Montserrat Bravo at Similarweb, who began her career as a professional psychologist before transitioning into HR. Montserrat worked as a HR / Recruitment Manager at Ashbourne Group in London for five years before becoming a HR Officer at WorldSkills UK, where she quickly transitioned into a HR Manager, Shared Services role.  In 2015, Montserrat joined Connexity as the HR Manager, where she remained for 5.5 years. During her tenure, Connexity acquired Hitwise and promoted Montserrat to the role of HR Director, UK. In 2020, she joined her current company, Similarweb as HR Business Partner, EMEA & APAC. She transitioned into her current role as HR Director, EMEA & APAC in January 2021.  Can you tell us how you got into HR and why? I’m originally from Mexico, and in Mexico it’s common for HR professionals to be psychologists. That’s my background, I completed my bachelors in psychology with a focus on organisational psychology, then got my first job as a HR assistant for a real estate company. After a while, I returned to academia and obtained my masters in clinical psychology. I was, and still am, very passionate about people in general, and the drivers behind their behaviour. Why do people behave the way they do? How do people experience happiness? How do the intersections of personal and professional life overlap? I worked in education for a while as the head of a psychology department before moving to London 14 years ago. It was then that I began working as a recruitment consultant, which led to a role in HR. Can you tell me about the key themes and challenges that you’re seeing across the HR sector? One of our current challenges, which I think is common for companies our size, is our business grows faster than our people. This means we have to promote people faster than we would like to, so the maturity of our managers can be a challenge. Many of our managers have built careers within the company without working in other organisations and we have to support them and equip them with the skills they need to become effective leaders.  We don’t have attrition or hiring challenges right now. We have a good proposition and we’re able to attract top talent, but the question is, once we hire them, how do we grow them and give them a sense of career growth within a furiously competitive market?  Related to this is our second challenge, which is the perception of growth. Similarweb is in the tech sector and most people in this sector are part of the millennial generation. We have a combination of very talented, high potential people, who are ambitious to progress in their careers but who lack maturity to understand how growth actually takes place. As a solution, we’re trying to find the right balance by providing mechanisms and frameworks that will enable both managers and individual contributors to understand how they can get from point A to point B.   What career advice would you offer to someone either working towards a career like yours, or someone just getting started in their HR career? I strongly believe job titles and the package attached to them are a byproduct of something else, more important. I’ve always done things because I care. I’ve followed my passion and my values, so the advice I give to others is to do the same.  I think career progression comes from the right skills, the right attitude and being at the right place at the right time. Be humble and focus on learning. Actively ask for feedback and push yourself to be self-taught as much as you can. Grab opportunities when they are in front of you, especially if they can lead to strong relationships.  If you are starting out in your career, get experience at a smaller company. This is the route I took and it allows you to learn quickly, experience different areas of HR and stretch yourself. Lastly, be open, be flexible and always try to do a good job.  Montserrat has been responsible for the EMEA & APAC regions at Similarweb since April 2020, first in her role as HR Business Partner, and then as HR Director. If you are interested in having a confidential conversation about your career or would like support growing your team, please get in touch today.

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“…volunteer to do the difficult stuff. The jobs that are unglamorous.” – Interview with Martin Glover

“The way you learn most about yourself, others, and how to get things done is to volunteer to do the difficult stuff. The jobs that are unglamorous.” – Martin Glover, HR Director at Morton Fraser, speaks to us about developing a career in HR Leadership. As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, we’ve invited some HR Leaders to share the secrets of their success. This week, we had a great conversation with Martin Glover, whose career began at the NHS, where he progressed to HR Director level. In 2000, Martin left the NHS to become HR Director at Residence International, a European 5* hotel group, before switching sectors to join AEGON Scottish Equitable in 2001. Martin spent 9 years at AEGON in the roles of HR Manager, Head of Employee Relations / HR Business Partner, and Head of Corporate HR and Group Head of Organisational Effectiveness.  After leaving AEGON, Martin spent time in the role of Global Head of HR and OD at GE Oil and Gas before he joined The City of Edinburgh Council in 2013 as Head of HR Business Partnership and Transformational Change. He remained at the council for almost four years, transitioning into the role of Interim Head of Human Resources and Organisational Development. In 2016, Martin became Global Head of HR and OD at Wood MacKenzie. He joined Morton Fraser in his current role as HR Director in December 2017.  Can you tell us how you got into HR and why? I didn’t wake up one day and think, ‘wow I’d love to work in HR’. Rather I fell into it while pursuing a career in finance at the NHS. My role involved working on the expenses for staff travel so I worked very closely with the HR department. Over time, I became much more interested in what they were doing and I was able to transition internally into the HR team. There have been several moments in my career when I felt I knew HR was the right profession for me. One was in my early days in HR at the NHS. I was let loose on some of the ‘safer’ aspects of dealing with people, such as HR administration and running induction programmes for new joiners. I particularly enjoyed welcoming new recruits into the organisation, telling them about the history of the organisation and giving them advice and guidance. I got a buzz from standing up in front of a room of people and the positive feedback I received really built my confidence. That’s where my career very humbly started out.  Since then, I’ve worked for a variety of different industries including hospitality, the public sector, oil and gas and legal. Some organisations (and recruitment agencies) are much more insightful about people making cross-industry transitions than others. In some cases, companies only want people who’ve worked in their industry already, but others deliberately seek out people with alternative backgrounds. When I joined GE oil and gas, I was going to work in organisational development. They understood that an industry background didn’t add anything. They were interested in my ideas around leadership, culture and talent, not what I knew about sub-sea oil systems, for example.  Can you tell me about the key themes and challenges that you’re seeing across the HR sector? There are three big things on my agenda, the first being diversity, inclusion and belonging. I’m really proud of the stuff we do at Morton Fraser on diversity and inclusion. Last year, 40% of our traineeships went to people from socially disadvantaged environments. The law as a doctrine is about the promotion of justice for all but it is dispensed by – it would seem from the outside – people who are very exclusive, typically white and male. Our board is very inclusive, so my job hasn’t been to create this inclusivity, it’s been to advertise it externally, to encourage people who previously might not have thought of joining us change their mind and consider our organisation.   The second challenge is talent. How do we spot and retain the best talent for and within our business? How do we align people processes to the very best talent? By that I mean how do we ensure the biggest rewards, promotions and work opportunities go to the best talent. Additionally, while promoting and directing top talent, how do we also get the rest of our talented people to remain motivated, produce more and deliver well for our clients? What conversations do we need to be having with them so they still feel good about their contribution to the business?  My third challenge is managing and driving performance. How do we equip managers and leaders in the business to have the right types of conversations with people that will have them motivated and doing their best work every day?   Morton Fraser is my first role within the legal sector, but handling these challenges is something I’ve been doing for the last thirty years. What’s fascinating to me about all sectors, is that they all think they’re different, but in terms of people, actually they’re facing pretty much the same challenges. Fundamentally it isn’t any different in law than it is in the NHS, or oil and gas or hospitality.  What career advice would you offer to someone either working towards a career like yours, or someone just getting started in their HR career? Most importantly, really understand your business.  Understand how they make money, or in the case of a not-for-profit, how they service the needs of their clients. Understand where the business is at, get to know their pain points and issues, and be clear about what they are trying to achieve. Understand not only what the business priorities are, but why they are the priorities. Having that knowledge enables you to take your HR expertise and skills and apply it for the better performance of the organisation that you’re working for.  Secondly, concentrate on how you add

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Being a successful HR Leader while dealing with the COVID pandemic – Interview with Cindy Peters

“In the early days it felt intense, and people didn’t necessarily have the right technology at their fingertips when they began working from home. There was a massive focus on how we could improve communication.” – Cindy Peters, Chief Human Resources Officer at SANNE, speaks to us about being an HR leader during the COVID pandemic. As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, we’ve invited some HR Leaders to share their experiences during the COVID pandemic.  We recently had a great conversation with Cindy Peters at SANNE, a FTSE 250 company that employs circa 2,200 professionals worldwide. Cindy has experience across the financial services, professional services and technology sectors. She has been at SANNE since May 2019 and became Chief Human Resources Officer in August 2019.  What were the greatest challenges in managing the COVID pandemic in your organisation?  We are a global organisation and that meant different parts of our organisation experienced the pandemic at different times, with the Asia Pacific region being hit first. It was very much a learning process for the first few months. When it first affected our Shanghai office, we didn’t have any concept as to what it was going to become. It was probably in April 2020 that we realised we needed to massively ramp up communications. We got over the technology challenges quite quickly, but keeping in touch with people and keeping them engaged was something that we knew we had to focus on. We tackled it in a number of different ways: we ran a pulse survey in May 2020 that concentrated on communications – were we doing there enough or would people like to see something different? In the survey, we gave the options of requesting more one-to-one meetings, town hall meetings etc, and the executive committee (EXCO) started making videos which we put on our intranet.  These were really well received. In the early days it felt very intense, and people didn’t necessarily have the right technology at their fingertips when they began working from home. There was a massive focus on how we could improve communication within teams.  We use our intranet a lot and we run virtual coffee hangouts, where we have a panel of people with expertise in one specific area; those people who dial in to the session can then submit questions in real time to the panel. We provided support on wellbeing and managing during difficult times, and  provided access to the Headspace app for all our employees.  Our external training provider moved to a virtual platform early in the pandemic and developed programs around working from home and how to set up boundaries between work and home life,  We ran a series of vlogs with both EXCO and more junior employees talking about their personal challenges during the pandemic, talking about what they’ve learned and how they’ve adapted, to demonstrate that things can affect you regardless of seniority.  What is the long-term impact that COVID will have on your organisation? In our pulse survey, we asked people if we could change one thing when we return to the office, what would that be? Overwhelmingly, the feedback was around flexible working.  In response we’ve implemented what we call The Balance Initiative, which means something different in every country in which we operate. We’re a client facing organisation so we have to ensure we get the balance right for individual employees, for teams and for our clients. We’ve run focus groups, we’ve worked closely with country heads and teams in every jurisdiction and we’ve put in place arrangements where, post-pandemic, everyone has the opportunity to work from home for a certain number of days a week. We’re also looking at flexible start and finish times.  It’s a question of finding the best fit for everybody, while ensuring that our client service remains at a very high standard. We also have to make sure that our trainees, who are at the start of their career, spend enough time face-to-face with managers so that they’re being supported and learning from them.  Our focus on communication is something that has significantly changed. We run far more virtual coffee hangouts now and all of our town hall meetings run virtually as well as face-to-face, where covid restrictions allow.   We encourage the country heads to have one or more members of EXCO attend town hall meetings so people can ask us about whatever is on their mind. There are a number of things that have changed, but if I had to pick one, I think The Balance Initiative is going to have the biggest impact globally.   What changes have you made to your organisational structure or ops procedures in response to the pandemic? We haven’t made any changes to our organisational structure as a result of the pandemic, but being out of the office for so long meant that processes had to be really clearly defined because opportunities for more informal discussion about process were limited.   .  We had to adapt to countries going into lockdown at different times and with different circumstances, which meant we had to be able to respond quickly and proportionately.  What are the key challenges that you’re up against as an HR leader as we emerge from COVID?  Like many other industries and businesses, we’re experiencing what you might call a COVID bounce. Last year there was very little attrition; there was too much uncertainty in the markets and people wanted to stay where they were. As the situation started to ease, we have seen a lot of movement, with people changing jobs and, in some instances, careers.  We’re a growing business so attracting the right people remains a challenge. Attraction and retention are the same challenges that any growing business faces, but they have been exacerbated by COVID.  Another key challenge is to constantly remain in tune with what’s important to people. The pulse survey we did was in May 2020. Since then, the novelty of

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