“Challenge yourself and be true to yourself.” – Interview with Caroline Thomas
âHR goes to the core of what you stand for and what you believe. I believe in fundamental fairness. In doing the right thing, even when no one is watching. You have to be kind and care for others, because you never know what someone else is going through.â â Caroline Thomas, Director HR at B&Q, speaks to us about developing a career in HR Leadership. As part of our commitment to supporting candidates to develop fulfilling careers, weâve invited some HR Leaders to share the secrets of their success. This week, we had a great conversation with Caroline Thomas at B&Q who began her career as an apprentice in the manufacturing sector before discovering her passion for HR. Caroline worked at Rover Group in HR Admin before joining BMW Group UK, and later National Tyres and Autocare, as a Personnel Officer. In 2004 she joined New Look as a HR Business Partner where she spent five years before transitioning to People Change Manager. In 2011, Caroline left New Look and joined her current organisation, B&Q, as Organisational Design and Talent Programme Manager. In 2014-2015 she spent time with B&Q’s parent company, Kingfisher Plc as Head of Business Change before she returned to B&Q to take on her current role as Director of HR in July 2015. Can you tell us how you got into HR and why? I began my career on a business management apprenticeship at Rover Group where I rotated around several different functional areas. I spent time in marketing, finance and procurement before HR. While in recruitment, I realised how much of a difference it makes in peopleâs lives and I was hooked. I spoke with the HR Director and transitioned out of my rotations to become his PA. In that role I got a strong grounding in HR in a heavily unionised environment. I see organisations as living, breathing organisms, so the manufacturing sector with itâs process oriented, mechanical nature of working really excited me and I spent most of my early career in the automobile industry. After I left Rover Group I worked for both BMW and National Tyres and Autocare. Then, after 5 years I started thinking about getting experience in either the retail or hospitality sectors. I had moved to the south coast and New Look was one of the largest employers in the area. I earmarked them as my next company and was able to get a role within their distribution centre. It was a big change. Previously my companies had been âoperational focussedâ but this was a much more entrepreneurial environment, which I loved. I ended up staying seven years working as a Business Partner and later a People Change Manager. I was made redundant after returning from maternity leave. It was an eye opening experience to be on the receiving end of those conversations and to realise how cold and brutal that process can be. I felt like rather than utilising the new insights Iâd gained through the life-changing experience of becoming a mother, the company had forgotten me. B&Q hired me days after I reached out to them and Iâve been with them ever since doing specialised roles in change management, talent and organisational design, as well as more general positions around business partnering, communications and shared services. Iâve always believed that the more you can learn about cultural differences the better HR leader you will be and in 2014 I had the opportunity to work at group level with Kingfisher Plc (who own B&Q) and spent time in France, Poland, Russia and Spain. I returned to B&Q to consolidate what Iâve learnt and became Director of HR in 2015. For me, HR goes to the core of what you stand for and what you believe. I believe in fundamental fairness. In doing the right thing, even when no one is watching. HR is about trusting those around you and being trusted. Itâs two-way, you have to build credibility and respect. You also have to be kind and care for others, because you never know what someone else is going through. Can you tell me about the key themes and challenges that youâre seeing across the HR sector? Firstly I believe there is a huge challenge at the moment about authenticity and strength in leadership. As a HR professional, how do you ensure that leaders are clear about what has influenced their leadership style and why? How can you help them recognise that theyâre on a journey and always learning? Colleagues are, quite rightly, demanding more of leaders and I think leadership is shifting beyond what you do and know, to what you believe in. Arguably itâs got easier to be a leader because itâs no longer about you having the answers, it’s about how you’re listening, being curious and asking the right questions. Our role as HR professionals is about getting leaders to understand themselves first before they start to understand others and the business around them. A conversation Iâm frequently having with leaders is how are you investing in your inner mentor? How are you championing yourself? How do you recognise when youâre getting things right? Leaders need to be authentic and clear about what has influenced their leadership styles.  The second challenge I see for HR is hybrid working. In our roles we navigate conversations, observations and make connections but right now weâre more removed from our colleagues than ever before. We need to up our game to ensure weâre making those connections, having the right conversations and observing what we need to. Within HR, we need to be more agile, prioritise where we spend our time, listen to all colleagues and focus on where we can make a difference to their experiences. Hybrid working is absolutely the way forward, it’s not a barrier, but we do need to be smarter and savvier in HR about how we go about our work. And finally, but most importantly Diversity and Inclusion, we need to recognise
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